We all have certain expectations as we begin our breastfeeding journeys. Sometimes those expectations are met and sometimes they are exceeded- it’s all part of your developing role has a new mom. Today we’re continuing our series where we follow three moms and their newborns as they explore breastfeeding for the first year of life. Have common issues such as vasospasms and colic been resolved yet? How are the moms dealing with breastfeeding in public and returning back to work? Plus, more on pumping and getting support from family and friends.
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“Breastfeeding Expectations: The Third Month”
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Robin Kaplan: A mother’s breastfeeding experience changes drastically over time, starting from her child’s birth throughout the months of her baby’s life. Today, we continue our conversation in our series called breastfeeding expectations. Over the next 12 months, we will follow 3 mothers along their breastfeeding journeys learning how they cope with breastfeeding challenges and settle into a breastfeeding rhythm with their baby’s. This is the boob Group, episode 19.
Robin Kaplan: Welcome to The Boob Group, broadcasting from the Birth Education Center of San Diego. I’m your host Robin Kaplan. I am also a certified lactation consultant and owner of the San Diego Breastfeeding Centre. At The Boob Group, we are online support group for all things related to breastfeeding. Are you a Pinterest lover? Did you know that we tag all our new mommy media shows on our pinterest boards? We love tagging our favorite articles and photos so, stop by and enjoy. Also, if you happen to do any clicking during this episode today, we actually have a fantastic photographer in our studio today and so if you’re interested in learning more about Catie, her website is SanDiegoBirthPhotographer.com and also if you would like to see some of our behind the scenes photos check out our Facebook page. So, now it’s time for me to introduce our lovely new moms who will be following now for the next month 10 months. Ladies, would you please introduce yourselves?
Jennifer Oliver: I am Jennifer Oliver. I am 33; I will be 34 on Tuesday. I work in Arts Education Administration. I have 2 kids, Fiona is 2 and half and Bryson is 10 weeks.
Anney Hall: I am Anney Hall and I am 36. I am an architect and newly just gone back to work, we can talk about it later.
Robin Kaplan: Yeah, we will be.
Anney Hall: I have one daughter she is 3 months old. She is Eleanor and that’s it.
Cherri Christiansen: Hi, I am Cherri Christiansen. I am 31. I work in Consumer Research and I have one little girl. Her name is Cali and she is 9 weeks old.
Robin Kaplan: And our babies are also in the studio today. So, if you happen to hear any lip smacking or little squawking, they could be enjoying lunch or telling us that they want to have little conversation or anything.
[Featured Segment: News Headlines]
Robin Kaplan: Let’s kick off today’s episode with some unbelievable breastfeeding stories that’s making headlines around the internet. All of these stories are posted on the Boob Group Pinterest board, if you would like to check them out. So, the headline that I pulled today, speaking of mama’s going back to work that topic or the headline is Mom, told not to pump at work because she might spray all over the office.
Robin Kaplan: Yes, so apparently this woman name Christen Joseph out of L.A., she told CBS L.A., that she had a conversation with one of her managers at Hennessy’s Tavern in which she requested privacy to pump and she was told No. Her manager told her that he thought it was disgusting. He didn’t want me to spray all over his office. I was just repulsed by what he had to say. Joseph told the news outlets, so ladies for those of you who are back to work or starting almost going back to work, what do you think about this? Anney I’m gonna shoot it over to you since then you did just start to go back to work.
Anney Hall: Well, I can just imagine my partners telling me that I would be spraying all over the office.
Robin Kaplan: Because actually you are pumping in their office.
Anney Hall: Hoping that it would happen to just make fun of me. No, I think it is ridiculous. Obviously, this guy is an idiot; can I say that?
Robin Kaplan: Of course.
Anney Hall: Poor girl, she’s already going through enough emotional transition to not be at home and I think what I told you was that Robin, was that it made me feel homesick. And it wasn’t, so homesick that I needed to be with Eli or that I needed to be home. It was just this feeling of being homesick [Baby speaks] [Laughs] she’s for me, yeah she totally agrees. I think she is processing her lunch right now. [Laughs]So I can’t imagine somebody telling me that I couldn’t do
it there and not having the support, it’s just ridiculous.
Robin Kaplan: How about you Jen?
Jennifer Oliver: I don’t even know what to say. What do you do? I mean, you have to pump and otherwise, I mean, that would be extremely painful and impossible for her to work. So, if they want to maintain her in working condition then she’s gonna have to pump so is she supposed to go to the car? Or even worst I had an event that I was at, it was a work event and there was no place to pump and then of course, I walk in to the bathroom and the only outlet are, right where the sinks are and it was a fundraising event so I am trying to promote our organisation and talk to people that I could possibly be fundraiser. And I thought well that would be great how about I plug in pump right here and look at people as they enter the restroom. [Laughs] And then when they see me later doing a presentation I really impress them; so yeah, it sounds ridiculous.
It’s so hard to pump at work and to find places to pump and if you’re someone who is constantly on-site moving from place to place,you’re not in a nice office that you can sort of shape your space, it’s really hard. I have had to pump in really odd How natural was for us to just hang out and be with her and him to go do something or for me to go do something cause I just would hand draft. And so, that support that I had the whole time I didn’t realize I had. And then now that we are in the 3-month mark, and heading back to work I am transitioning emotionally in to a different space and I have never been here and we recently had a conversation about some of the things that I have been feeling, I didn’t realise that I was starting to have that kinda of conversation with him and then he said well I never did this before and I went like oh yeah; okay we’ve never done this before and I needed that check in, and cos he won’t just sit out for that information up unless I didn’t realise we are having a check in, Ineeded that; so he’s definitely been very supportive and I don’t realise how much he has been, so; Its good.
Robin Kaplan: Yeah absolutely, How about you Cherri?
Cherri Christiansen: Was that the manager who said that to her?
Robin Kaplan: I; yes.
Cherri Christiansen: I hope he got fired.
Robin Kaplan: Well, apparently it's for she is in touch with the corporate office and they are currently investigating the incident.
Cherri Christiansen: I would hope so. I mean I can't believe that, I am still amazed when I find people who don't know that it's illegal to tell someone that they can't, you know, breastfeed in public or to deny someone their right to go and do that. I guess, now it's just all I think about, so much more in mind maybe I would have been more bulbous about it a couple of years ago; but..
Robin Kaplan: I wonder if this guy is married and has children. Probably not!
Cherri Christiansen: I don't know I just find really offensive that he would tell her that's disgusting you can't do that, cos I find his behavior disgusting.
Robin Kaplan: Absolutely, alright lady well thanks for sharing your opinion and we will be right back.
[Theme & Music]
Robin Kaplan: Alright so we are back, ladies so what's new and exciting with your kiddos now that they are into their 3rd months?
Jennifer Oliver: I am still trying to figure out what could be new and exciting [Laughs]. I am still at home. He is 10 weeks now. He is always starting to look like a baby that's really new and exciting. He's sort of getting those chubby cheeks. And I grab his thighs cos he's very gaseous and so I like to grab his thighs move him side to side and then sort of push up and push against his abdomen to help him to release. And they are just so full; his thighs are so full, I love it. As for as the breastfeeding we are kinda getting into a routine and he's surprising me in the sense that he seems like he's very interested and naturally moves towards the routine. My first child was not in any routine and she still is not in any routine and she seems to always resist it. So he's kind of got a nice routine at feeding and that's kind of nice to just know.
Robin Kaplan: He is pretty dependable, predictable!
Jennifer Oliver: Yeah, he is pretty predictable. Outside of that, it seems like his, everything is kind of starting to find a rhythm. So I don't if that's
exciting but it's.......
Robin Kaplan: Yeah, no it's good.
Jennifer Oliver: It definitely seems like I am moving towards having a baby and not a newborn.
Robin Kaplan: Very cool, how about you Cherri?
Cherri Christiansen: Oh gosh! I think the most exciting things for us, in no particular order, number one was this week, Kelly is 9 weeks and she is on her 2 month birthday exactly, she just hit the 10-pound mark. So she was growing like crazy and then she got to 9 pounds really quickly and then she kind of just strolled there. She was just hanging out at 9 pounds for probably a month or so. And so that was very exciting, and then the second thing that we are super thrilled about is that she is sleeping a lot longer now.
Robin Kaplan: What does that look like for you when you say she is sleeping longer?
Cherri Christiansen: I think her Longer stretch is probably about 5-6 hours now, which I know some people have like a baby sleeping through the night but we were like up every 2 hours, so for me to be getting like a 6 hours stretch feels like 10 hours at times. But we are still so close being and I am nursing her and doing lot of side lying and so I find that sometimes we get into bed and be in bed for 10 hours and I may nurse her 2 or 3 times in the night. But I don't actually physically have to wake up and I kinda learned that you know, we have this little routine where she wakes up and we'd go change her diaper and now we have just scratched that. Before she even fully wakes up I just kinda put her on to my breast and she will nurse and she kinda of, you know sometimes she doesn't really never wake up and if she does, she goes right back to sleep. That's pretty really fantastic.
Robin Kaplan: Oh that's great.
Cherri Christiansen: The third thing is not that I am not getting my memory back because I still don't know what's going on and I am like oh, what's
that third thing I was very clearly three things I was going to tell you and I really can't remember that the 3rd thing was. She's gaining weight, she's sleeping more, oh, I know what it is we are getting lot more smiles, not those kinda of like gassy smiles, more like the reactive, you know, like I make little faces at her and she kinda makes them back at me and so its kinda fun and exciting just to see her more interactive. You know, it's kinda like what you were saying Jenny about being more of a baby than a kinda of sort of helpless newborn and so it's very exciting.
Robin Kaplan: Anney, how about you?
Anney Hall: Well, she's still eating [Laughs]. Yeah, she's currently eating. I think one of the really fun and exciting things is that now it's just starting to get into fun as supposed to scary and then enter in the factor of work so we are juggling a whole new part of life that we've never experienced before, as a couple. But she's smiling and starting to make her coo sounds and starting to kinda talk and have a personality and that's why it's fun and I think that with breastfeeding at 3 months is starting to sort of figuring each other out, she's figuring it out, my body is figuring it out, so it feels really good to be where we are right now.
Robin Kaplan: Cool and kind of getting into that too about breastfeeding so I know that, you know, Anney and Cherri you both have been dealing with days of spasms and kind of painful breastfeeding or lingering after breastfeeding and so, has that started to resolve yet, Cherri?
Cherri Christiansen: For me it has; it definitely has. I didn't even realize that it had gotten better. I think, part of me just got used to the pain and got
used to a lot of things that were going on and it just kinda becomes normal and you just accept it; and then one day I realized I was like, "wow, it's been a couple of days since I had any of those spasms," like, I was trying to remember when the last time was and I realised it had been over a week.
Robin Kaplan: Oh, Wow!
Cherri Christiansen: That's fantastic and so it's little bit hard to know why it kind of resolved itself just because I kind of hit the ground running very aggressively they were issues and I didn't want to let them linger and so I kinda took a lot of recommendations that you gave me Robin and when we were doing magnesium supplements, vitamin B6, I got the giant wool breast pads to keep them warm. I'm kinda doing a lot of other things that other people have recommended to me. They weren't helping; we've been going for acupuncture and tried. And I say we, cos Kelly comes with me for every acupuncture appointment. Miss you sweetheart. [Laughs] So, I have been going twice a week for the acupuncture just started to kinda easing that off about once a week and then taking a lovely
smelly concoction of Chinese herbs. And so It's hard to know what's really, you know, working and what's not working when you are doing so many things, but I just figured I really don't care.
Robin Kaplan: It is working.
Cherri Christiansen: Something's working! I don't think it's the herbs that they gave me just because I started to notice improvements before I started taking those. But then since I have taken those I haven't really gotten any and I feel like I have lot more energy and I know he puts some special voodoo new mom stuff in there. [Laughs] just to kind of help with that. So, it's very exciting and, you know, I still suffering with Raynaud's a little bit; but it's not as painful.
Robin Kaplan: That's wonderful.
Cherri Christiansen: Yeah, that's great.
Robin Kaplan: Anney's time now, it's okay kind of to ask you about yours, because I know you had mentioned that you were feeling yours is getting a
lot better as well.
Anney Hall: It has and it's the same thing I noticed a couple of days, [Baby Cries] Hang On, that I realized that I was in pain.
Robin Kaplan: We'll come back to you [Laughs] Elli would like you to full [Inaudible words] [13:24.1]
Anney Hall: I would take her but I don't think maybe I could help at this moment. [Laughs]
Robin Kaplan: Well, Jen and aunty you had mentioned last time that Bryson was really getting colicky and you guys were kinda off sake of it at that point. Has it gotten better?
Jennifer Oliver: Yeah, his, Bryson colic has gotten better. The nice thing about it is, that I don't know if this is nice but, my daughter was colic as well so, I did have that experience and so it didn't feel as [Audience Laugh] It was a really good one. My daughter was colic as well so it didn't feel as scary when Bryson was colic, I also sort of was informed about what a modified diet would look like so, my diet is still modified I find that if I cheat a little bit and try and add little bit more dairy in to my diet, I see it.
Robin Kaplan: Wow, that's significant.
Jennifer Oliver: So, it definitely seems to be making it a difference and the nice thing about it is that with my daughter I felt like there was several months before I really figured it out and with him he is already 10 weeks and I would say really is about a week; 5 or 6 that I really felt like I had it under control and now I see that he is such a pleasant baby which is so nice because when they're screaming all the time you don't know when the whole time you just wondering I don't know what their personality is, is this going to be a pleasant baby or is this going to be my experience whole time and I can't see her personality or I can't see his personality because he's just screaming all the time. So, I really feel like I get a chance to see his personality means, pretty mellow and for me my daughter is not mellow. [Laughs] So, it is so exciting.
Robin Kaplan: Plus such a transformation too because when we first started to talk with you; you were like you had a such a hard time in first time,don't you get a break and that's so cool; within 10 weeks in to you are already seeing that this is going to be an easier baby.
Jennifer Oliver: I think so and I am sure a part of it has to do with having a second baby. You are just not, I don't feel as stressed as I felt with the first and from everything, from her, you know, crying to feeding to sleeping, I just feel it is much easier this time. Having said that, it's much harder to juggle too so I am learning that. But, I definitely feel like there's mix. He seems a little bit easier and I seem like I'm more comfortable.So that helps a lot.
Robin Kaplan: That's awesome. Anney, do you wanna share about your vasospasms? [Laughs]
Anney Hall: Yeah, I started to say that over a period of couple days I noticed that I wasn't feeling it. And then, I think what was happening was because I was pumping, it was giving the breast a break from her suck and so Robin had suggested that I go see a Craniosacral to help her with the suck which I still I need to do. I still would like to do that because I had realized that if she were to be on the breast all day long, the pain would come back. I did do the vitamins and that started to help a little bit too and then I ran out so and then I started working, so it's sort of has worked itself out a little bit. I am so gonna go see the doctor.
Robin Kaplan: Well, and you had mentioned as well to me privately [laughs] you found that your production was actually kinda of normalizing, where both of them were kinda equalizing out.
Anney Hall: Yes.
Robin Kaplan: And so I am wondering if because that kinda oversupply now; so cute Elli is laughing, [Laughs] you're kind of oversupply on that one side now that its kinda of equalizing maybe not as forceful maybe she is not biting down, so?
Anney Hall: I've balanced to two ounces on both sides or at least this side has caught up. She's not constructing and so I have eliminated that one problem or she's eliminated that one problem. And then so the vasospasm is not as painful, I guess. I am not noticing as much. So yeah, It's working itself out, It comes from being afraid and being in pain and not knowing and it's only been 3 months.
Robin Kaplan: Feels like, it has been forever right [Laughs].
Anney Hall: I mean, it feels like it's been forever and I thought that this way it's gonna feel for the whole time.
Cherri Christiansen: Yeah, I had that once, it's never gonna go away.
Anney Hall: Cause you're in the moment and it's so painful and you get so emotional about it's because you're the sustenance for your baby. And, in that moment it's only been an hour [Laughs]. And then it's fine. But still; so I look back and it's only been 3 months, so that's crazy.
Robin Kaplan: All right when we come back will discuss how Anney, Jen and Cherri are dealing with either to returning to work or thinking about going back to work, pumping and finding support from their family and friends. We'll be right back.
Robin Kaplan: Alright, so we are back. And during the break, Cherri said that she had an awesome record of breastfeeding in public, multiple times in one day. So, would like to share your record, please?
Cherri Christiansen: Sure, why not, I think it's just, you know, was a little nerve-wracking at first and I was bit uncomfortable with it and then kind of I was nice timing I don't remember when this was the breastfeeding week was that?
Robin Kaplan: About 3 weeks ago.
Cherri Christiansen: 3 weeks ago, ok, Cali was only little over a month at that time but we, there was one day I think it was actually the 1st day of the breastfeeding week where we had bunch of different appointments to run and I knew that this was gonna be the day that I was just gonna kind of have to suck it up and nurse her in public and I never ever bought a cover, cos I thought to myself I am not gonna need one. Of course, the first time I did it, I felt really self-conscious and then I just decided, you know what like, to hell with it. I got to do this and maybe breastfeeding for a long time and it's going to be a long time at home if I am not comfortable nursing outside the house and so I literally nursed her every single place that we went. And then it kind of became this thing that I wanted to try and see how many different places I could nurse her in one day and so we got her birth certificate and so we started off at the office of vital records [laughs] and then we had doctor's appointment and we went out for lunch so we nursed at the restaurant, we nursed at the beach, we went to a bar for happy hour. So my husband could finally get a beer so, since there is no beer in the house forever. I nursed her there; there was a table of little kids sitting next to us. Their parents were at a separate table and they put all the kids at one table. There was a little girl at a table just staring and staring. It was pretty clear she probably never seen someone breastfeed before. I don't think she had the faintest idea what exactly the baby was doing [Laughs]. I don't know how old she was, probably she was 6 or 7, but it was pretty cool and in that one day kind of all my nerves, all any sort of discomfort that I might have felt was just gone, you
know, this like all right, I can do this there isn't I haven't done this yet. I can do this now.
Robin Kaplan: That's awesome. All right, so I would like to talk with you guys about your return to work. What's been the most difficult, first of all who's returned to work; Jen you return to work, Anney's return to work and Cherri when you're returning?
Cherri Christiansen: I am going back in 2 months.
Robin Kaplan: Okay in 2 months, so Jen what's been the most difficult part about returning to work.
Jenny Hall: So I guess the most difficult thing about returning to work for me has been, well there have been a few different episodes that stand out to be right now, one being I am teaching classes in the evening from 6-9 p.m. and I need to prepare for those classes but I don't really have arranged care for that. So I am finding that, trying to find time with a 2 and half-year-old and an infant to prep for those class is really hard and the first day or so I just felt so unprepared and so flustered and then one day I had to bring them into class couple of times and one day in particular, I just found like, when I have didn't have them I was rushing like I was rushing to get information now, I was rushing to help people and then when I had him I was so distracted so trying to have him with me was
really difficult and so trying to balance that. And then, the other piece that's really interesting is that I have a mother and a father in law who come over to watch Bryson while I am out in one of the classes and there is something about leaving him with my mother is easier cos I feel like I am imposing, cos there are two
kids and it seems like a lot and it's in the evening and it's their bedtime so it's a lot to ask. But when it's my husband's parents it feels so awkward. I just feel bad about I feel like they are not happy about me leaving. It's just this really awkward feeling of having to ask somebody else for help and it not being ideal and that it is hard. Evening times are really hard with 2 little ones so that's what standing out to me right now being really difficult aside from that.......[baby cries] yeah I know, aside from trying to pump about in public area other than that, it's going.
Robin Kaplan: How about you Anney, what's been the most difficult part about returning to work and leaving your little lady?
Anney Hall: I think initially the most difficult part was pumping and finding a comfortable space to pump in.
Robin Kaplan: So where were you pumping?
Anney Hall: [Laughs] I am pumping in my office which doesn't have doors or ceiling and looks directly out to the front door [Laughs]
Cherri Christiansen: How is this working, we need details.
Anney Hall: We didn't identify for it the right office is the answer that I have learned. Cos we recently remodeled and moved into this new space and that's the office I got and I didn't think about that was going to be the first office anybody would see while I was pumping. So we, I went back,before they were doors and coverage and so I would face the wall like I was doing something wrong and that's probably why I started feeling homesick because here I am in this space that's people just come in and out and they don't care that I am pumping life, you know, that's what I felt like. [Laughs] So, the doors have been finally have been put on and we put screens on them, now it's completely covered and so now I feel much better but I still felt exposed. We don't have any locks or, you know, there is still another door available to get into my space. So then I recently got a little hider for it, so, now I feel much better. [Laughs]
Robin Kaplan: Now if anybody walks into the office, you are still covered!
Anney Hall: It's not just the act of pumping but it's actual paraphernalia; here are these big things, you know, stick out.....
Cherri Christiansen: Which sticks out it seems like a mile away from you when you are like trying to be conspicuous about it.
Anney Hall: And then, when you take them off you know, they form the shape of a boob [Laughs] so here are these things that everyone can see and it's just it's not private and I am very private. And so I have 2 business partners who are men, who are like my brothers and so they jump at it and I feel like they would jump it at every chance to pull fun and they have it, which is fantastic. Anyways so, that transition has been interesting and other than that I have been back part-time, so it doesn't feel quite real yet because I know I will be going back full time. And that I think it's what gonna set in then this transition is really that I'm working full time and I'm away from her.
Cherri Christiansen: What sorts of hours do you working now as part-time is it every day?
Anney Hall: I am working; No, its 20 hours for the week and I am also a part of the class that Jen is teaching Tuesdays and Thursdays nights from 6 to 9, and I too the first couple of classes felt awkward and like I was in the wrong place. And now it's fine. But so my hours are all over the place right now, so that's probably why it doesn't feel as awkward, but when I go back full time it's definitely gonna be a challenge.
Robin Kaplan: Ladies we haven't really talked much about supports that you've needed from your partners and your family and so, have you noticed over the last couple of months that it has changed what you've needed from your partners with either breastfeeding, parenting or anything involved postpartum?
Cherri Christiansen: I don't know I feel like I'm becoming little bit of more self-reliant now and I think before everything especially with breastfeeding I was probably where I needed the most support I was really where I would sit down and she would be crying and I would just kind of soothe her and then I realized that I had nothing. I didn't have my phone I was uncomfortable I didn't have a pillow and I needed water. So I was constantly kind of asking for things then I feel like; now I'm a little bit more, you know, kinda prepared. I have a little station that is up around the house, I kind of have pillow everywhere. If I don't have pillow I am kind of more used to it and I figured it out more position that I kinda of nurse a bit more comfortably so and I just feel just in general kind of, you know, being nine weeks postpartum I just feel lot more energy and I'm up in a battle lot more and I can make myself something to eat, I can make myself something to drinks. I definitely am still relying on my husband a lot but it's nice to not have to rely on him; to be able to do things myself too.
Robin Kaplan: How about you Jen?
Jenny Hall: I think everything is still sort of similar to what it was a little while ago which is that my husband is really in charge of entertaining the 2 and a half year old when he is at home. So he works full time and he doesn't get home till, after 6.30g 7.00. In which case, I find that I really want to check out 6.30 and 7.00 and I wanna hand the baby and 2 and a half-year-old is over there to entertain her and I am like go to the bathroom for a long time to do I don't know what.
Robin Kaplan: I use the laundry as an excuse, I have to go to the laundry and I am done, I am done in the garage for 30 minutes.
Jenny Hall: I just need to go to the bathroom, that was a long bathroom visit, Yeah [Laughs] I definitely find that I need that and I am thankful to have that and I am also really thankful too, cos he comes home for lunch sometimes and I am able to kinda of have help during that time. Other than that, I think I am really depended on my 2 and a half year old actually.She's doing a really, really good job but she needs to ignore him when he's screaming and then she needs to able to entertain herself when I have to feed him and she needs to be able to accept the fact that sometimes I can't rush over and help over when she needs help. So, she is doing a really phenomenal job even though she is 2 and a half and as really being 2 and a half and throwing many temper tantrum a day. But I am really proud of her. I think this is so hard and she's become my partner at home. She is not extremely helpful in trying to help me with Bryson. In fact usually, I run in to find her sort of removing the blanket when he is trying to sleep or touching his head or something like that. I always have to remind myself don't ever leave her if you don't where she is. He's fine cos he is sleeping but she on the other hand, so that's probably the hard part about that but I think more than anything I've just I am thankful that I am finding a rhythm in that and it's working out.
Robin Kaplan: Anney how about you, what have you noticed has your need for Jessy's support been different over this past month compared to when Elli was first born?
Anney Hall: Something that we touched on the very beginning as Jerry said that you gave the assignment to your husband and he was while you're feeding her he was feeding you. And, I remember saying that, that's a good idea and I didn't realise until Jessy went to work, he was out of work for; he was going to school but didn't start working for another month and a half I didn't realise how much he was supporting me until he went back to work [Laughs]. How natural was for us to just hang out and be with her and him to go do something or for me to go do something cause I just would hand draft. And so, that support that I had the whole time I didn't realize I had. And then now that we are in the 3 month mark, and heading back to work I am transitioning emotionally in to a different space and I have never been here and we recently had a conversation about some of the things that I have been feeling, I didn't realise that I was starting to have that kind of conversation with him and then he said well I never did this before and I went like oh yeah; okay we've never done this before and I needed that check in, and cos he won't just sit out for that information up unless, I didn't realise we are having a check in, I needed that; so he's definitely been very supportive and I don't realise how much he has been, so; Its good.
Robin Kaplan: All right, ladies thank you so much for sharing your experiences with breastfeeding your babies and just parenting your babies during their first month of life. I just love the advice your able to share every month and I only wish we had more than 30 minutes because I always feel like we are rushing in to finish catching up. But I really look forward to continuing our conversation in next few months.
[Featured Segment: Nursing Basics For New Moms]
Robin Kaplan: Before we wrap things up today, here’s Denise Altman with some nursing basics for the new mom.
Denise Altman: Hey there, Boob group! My name is Denise Altman. I’m private a practice IBCLC, otherwise known as Registered Lactation Consultant. Private practice means I have my own business, and I specialize in prenatal education and breastfeeding support. This session is about prenatal breast to breastfeeding, something like you definitely have an opinion about. Have you thought about taking a breastfeeding class? Perhaps, you have been reading books or checking website all over the internet and talking to your friend, are four things. However, a good breastfeeding class is a great way to prepare yours getting started. However, this is also something that you want to explore before actually signing up.
Breastfeeding class may be held in hospital or birth center but it also may be offered through doulas like lactation consultants, even some maternity or baby store. When considering a class find out about the content, what are they teaching? If you’re going to take this class you already get the advantage and benefits of breastfeeding? Why waste your time sitting in a room hearing more about that, but interesting, it may not necessarily get you off to the best start. But you really need are the nuts and bolts the how to, how another baby is getting enough, how to get started what normal newborn behaviors are. Along with these are other things that you need to learn such as where to find help, where to find your resources both in and out of the hospital or birth center.
In order to identify this information, it’s a good idea to talk to the class instructor himself. Find out where they are coming from, what their practice background is. If the person teaching the class is someone who just handles pump rentals and sales and really doesn’t work with the nursing mothers, this may not be the ideal choice for you. You may want a class instead taught by a registered lactation consultant or another birth advocate. Don’t discount La Leche League meetings, this is a great place to learn about the basics of breastfeeding as well as see what a normal breastfeeding looks like. I hope the information in this section can you get you started on exploring your options. For additional tips on choosing a breastfeeding class please visit my website at http://www.feedyourbaby.com and keep listening to The Boob Group.
Robin Kaplan: Thanks to all of our listeners I hope you will visit our website, http://www.theboobgroup.com and add your stories about breastfeeding your 2-3 month old in a comment section in our episode’s page. Coming up next week will be discussing Breast Hypoplasia and its effect on Breastfeeding. Thanks for listening to The Boob Group, because, mothers know breast.
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