How you diaper your baby will impact both you and baby every day. Cloth diapers has many benefits, but the whole process can often seem more complicated than it actually needs to be. So, what are the most common mistakes new moms make when cloth diapering their babies? Will “one size fits all” actually fit your baby? How often should you change your baby’s diaper? And what’s the best way to get rid of all that poop?
Top 10 Cloth Diaper Mistakes for New Moms
Episode 05, Oct 22, 2015
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AMY KESSLER: Your decision on how to diaper your baby will impact both you and the baby every day. There are a lot of benefits to choosing cloth diapers instead of disposable but the whole process can seem more complicated making things more difficult than it needs to be. So what are the most common mistakes new moms make when cloth diapering their babies?
I’m Amy Kessler, Cloth Diaper Educator and owner of Beach Bums Diapers and you’re listening to Newbies.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Welcome to Newbies, broadcasting from the Birth Education Center of San Diego. Newbies is your weekly online, on-the-go support group guiding new mothers through their baby’s first year. I'm your host, Kristen Stratton. I’m a certified birth Doula, Postpartum Doula, V Back Coach and owner of In Due Season Doula Services.
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KRISTEN STRATTON: Alright, let’s meet our panelists. I’ll go ahead and introduce myself. Again, I’m Kristen Stratton. I’m 29. I’m a Doula but I’m also a mother of three awesome crazy kids. I have a girl who’s five. I have a boy who’s three and another boy who’s two.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: Hi. My name is Wendy Wheatcraft. I’m 39 years old and I own a company called Mama Milk Baby Love. I do breastfeeding support groups, another types of breastfeeding support for moms. I have three kids. My oldest is 10 and she’s a girl. I also have a four year old girl and a two year old boy.
BRITTANY CIUFERRI: Hi. I’m Brittany Ciuferri. I’m 26 years old. I’m currently a stay-at-home mom but I’m also training to become a birth doula. I have one sweet baby girl who is seven months old.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Welcome to the show.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: Thank you.
BRITTANY CIUFERRI: Thanks for having us.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay. So today, we’re reviewing a new app that just came out. It’s by a company called Iodine. The name of the app is called Start – S-T-A-R-T. It’s a free app. So who doesn’t love free? It’s really I think a good tool for our new moms because it’s all about tracking the effectiveness of some medication that you might be taking for a postpartum depression or other postpartum mood disorders.
I think sometimes we’re so caught up in our day-to-day that it’s really hard for us to let alone understand if we have a postpartum mood disorder. If we are taking something – medication to help figure out if it’s effective, this is a great way to go about doing that. So it’s really simple to use. You do create an account but it’s very easy to do. Then you go through a series of questions.
If for some reason, the medication you’re taking is not on the list, you can e-mail the company and they’ll add it to the app. Then you also include the dosage information, how often you’re taking it, what time of day you’re taking it. Do you take it with a meal? Just very thorough so that you can evaluate basically how effective this is working for you.
Then every two weeks, it gives you a depression survey that you take. So not only are you taking the opportunity to mark down and self-evaluate but you’re actually taking a true psychological study to see: “Hey is this stuff actually working for you?” So I think it’s really user-friendly and the app is actually kind of cute. It’s like a little road map. So I think it seems like it’s going to be fun to use; if you can put the word fun in that. But yes, I think it can be.
So I personally probably would have made use of this because I know when I had postpartum depression, I didn’t really know what was going on with me and I was just kind of struggling to get through the day. I did end up going the medication route to treatment postpartum depression. So sometimes you’re just checking with your doctor and you’re like: “I don’t really know how I feel.”
So I think I would have really used this. So I’ll open this up to the panelists. Do you think this is something you would recommend to new moms? If you were in the situation, would you yourself use it?
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I definitely could have used something like that. I too struggled with it, with a few of my pregnancies afterward. I think something like that would be easier than reaching out to other people possibly which some people have a hard time with when they’re struggling with that.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Yes, absolutely.
BRITTANY CIUFERRI: I would definitely use it. It’s something that I’m strongly with now with my little girl; it took me a long time to acknowledge that’s what it was. I didn’t realize you could still have good days and you didn’t have to feel terrible all the time. So I think it would be a great way to help gauge like: “Okay is this just normal amounts of tired? Is there something more that maybe I can look into and see if it’s something that I need to get a little bit more help with.”
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I think I would definitely recommend to a lot of parents. It’s definitely the way like you said to gauge how you’re feeling. But also not have to really feel like you have to reach out to other people. But you could use it to help talk to your doctor or support group or therapist or something like that.
KRISTENT STRATTON: I just really enjoy the fact that it’s specifically geared towards your medication. Because a lot of times you’ll going for maybe like a two-week or four-week follow-up, maybe you have a really rough day that day. But overall, you were feeling kind of better. So then you can go back and say: “You know what? Today was a really rough day with baby but overall, I do feel like this is working or the opposite.” But this is just kinds of gives you some clarity when you go in to have this conversations.
So if you want more information about this app, we’ll just add a link to our website and you can click on it to get more information.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Today on Newbies, we’re discussing the top 10 cloth diapering mistakes made by new parents. Our expert Amy Kessler is a cloth diapering educator and owner of Beach Bums Diapers in San Diego, California. Thanks for joining us Amy. Welcome to the show.
AMY KESSLER: Thank you.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Amy why would a parent choose cloth diapering over disposables?
AMY KESSLER: I think there are several reasons. The main reasons that people come to me are probably environment and chemical exposure. People want to limit their impact on the environment, produce our carbon footprint and also disposable diapers are laid in with lots of horrible chemicals and people want to limit their child’s exposure to any chemicals. Cloth diapering is a great way to do that.
KRISTEN STRATTON: So then the cloth diapers would be more beneficial maybe versus disposable?
AMY KESSLER: Yes, I think the benefits obviously the environmental and chemical benefits are great. There are lots of chemicals that are known to cause asthma, liver problems, infertility and cancer. People are generally aware of that but then when they come to me or they go seek out someone to educate them about cloth diapers, they learn a lot more.
There’s also some other minor benefits which is that cloth diaper babies tend to potty trained on average a year earlier. Then also cloth diapered babies usually experience less diaper rash which is a perk.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Yes, it’s a huge perk especially the potty training one that’s a huge perk.
AMY KESSLER: A year without diapers would be awesome.
KRISTEN STRATTON: It would be very fantastic. Can you just briefly touch on the different styles of diapers that are out there? Not so much of the brands but I know there’s like pockets and all-in-ones.
AMY KESSLER: Well all in ones are self-explanatory, right? Everything’s one the absorbent layer, the plastic outer layer. It’s just like a disposable except it’s washable. Everything goes on at once. A pocket is a diaper that has a pocket layer and you stuff it with inserts that create absorbency. That’s my least favorite kind of diaper personally. But I know there are a lot of people who love them.
Then, a pre-fold is like your classic cloth diaper, what you see at most people use this burp cloths are those are obviously not the quality that you would want to use as a diaper really. But three panels, the thickest panel is in the middle, two on the outer and you kind of fold it over the baby.
Back in the day, you had to use pins. Now you really don’t need anything. They do make something called a snappy that you can use to hold it on but you really don’t need it. You can just use a cover over. So the cover is the plastic, water-proof layer that goes on the outside. There’s also all-in-twos. I don’t know double pockets and there are all kinds of stuff out there that’s really complicated. Just those are the main ones.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay panelists, what do you use? What style?
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I have all-in-ones and pockets. I’ve used covers with inserts when my babies were little.
BRITTANY CIUFERRI: We use pockets because we’re so new into it. I would like to start using hybrids or all in twos whatever you’d like to call them. We’ll give those a shot. I’m still trying to figure out fit working on that. We have leaks at night even though she’s being changed a couple of times at night. So I think it’s a learning curve.
AMY KRESSLER: Yes, definitely.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I think I’m just one of the weird people that actually likes pockets. I don’t know why, it’s just works for us.
AMY KRESSLER: Some people love them. I love pre-folds and there are so many people who hate pre-folds. But I love them.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: Pockets are my go-to. I don’t know why. Maybe because it was the first style that I used and so it’s the most comfortable.
AMY KRESSLER: They are definitely cuter too than pre-folds. I mean they have so many cute styles out there.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: That’s how they get to.
AMY KRESSLER: I know.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay, let’s begin with the top 10 mistakes cloth diaper parent’s make. So I’ll read them to you and you just kind of give me your expert opinion on them. Then we’ll open up to the panelists as well.
AMY KRESSLER: Okay.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Not trying more than one style. They are diapers. What is the difference if all they do is the same thing? Why is that important?
AMY KRESSLER: Well, just like every woman or man’s body is different. Every baby’s body is different. So every baby wets different. Every baby poops different. Every baby’s body shape is different. So if you don’t try a couple of different styles to see what works best for your baby then you might experience a lot of leaks.
It might have nothing to do with the fact that it’s a cloth diaper versus a disposable diaper. But just that the diaper just doesn’t fit your baby right. So you know you definitely have to try a few different things and find what works for you and what works for your baby.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I could have used that knowledge when I had the skinny little babies with no chub on their legs whatsoever. We have lots of blowouts. So I wish I had known that.
KRISTEN STRATTON: What about not buying enough diapers? How many diapers do we actually need?
AMY KRESSLER: Well, I would practice that by saying that you shouldn’t buy a whole bunch of one kind of diaper right at the beginning. You should maybe buy a few, try them out. Buy a couple of different kinds, try them out and then once you learned what works best, you should definitely have between 36 and 40 diapers that you can use. Because well obviously if you’re using a service then the service provides what you need each week.
If you’re not using a service and you’re washing them yourself, you have to remember that you’re going to have to wash every two to three days. When you’re doing the washing, it can take you a good few hours to get through the entire wash process. So you want to make sure that you have enough diapers that those are going to last.
If you don’t get to wash that day that you’re expecting to – the second day, you want to make sure that you have enough to get through that third day. So that you’re not without diapers or you don’t have to run to the store to buy a disposable or use a napkin or whatever else.
KRISTEN STRATTON: I would not recommend a napkin. That is not some very absorbent Okay, how about not changing cloth diapers enough. How often should we change them?
AMY KRESSLER: Well, regardless of what kind of diaper you use, you should be changing your baby’s diaper probably every two to three hours max. People come under the misconception that they can leave their baby in the diaper for four-five hours just because a disposable diaper can hold a lot of liquid. That doesn’t mean that your baby should be sitting in that liquid.
So you know regardless of what kind of diaper you use, you need to change your baby when they’re wet or when they’re diapers soiled. So at least two to three hours.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay. What about using a synthetic cloth for absorption? What problem does that cause and what’s the solution?
AMY KRESSLER: Well, I think that you want to keep the natural absorbency of cotton is great. When you come to synthetic fibers, they’re not as absorbent. If they’re designed to be more absorbent then they have a lot of synthetic things in them. They’re not as natural and they’re not good for your baby’s skin. They’re going to cause more rashes.
They’re going to pull the moisture away from the baby’s skin. But they’re also going to pull the moisture out of your baby’s skin causing more rash and stuff like that. So the natural fibers are definitely better. Well your baby might feel wet. When they’re wet, that’s okay. You change their diaper when they’re wet.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay. Not washing or drying them properly, how should cloth diapers be cared for?
AMY KRESSLER: I think this is where cloth diapers get really confusing. When you started to research, you see so much about: “How should I wash them? How much detergent should I use?” Really people over complicate it. You use as much detergent as you would wash your clothes. You use very hot water. Hot water kills germs. You know that the diapers are getting cleaned if you’re using hot enough water.
Then you don’t use anything fabric softener or bleach. That’s going to build up in the diapers or cause harsh chemicals to be in contact with your baby’s body. Like you said, very hot water is going to kill all the germs. I would recommend lying drying the diapers. If you use bleach again, you’re exposing your baby to chemicals. If you dry them in the dryer that’s great. But you’re going to definitely have more stains.
If you dry in the sun, you’re not going to have stains and you’re going to have an added level of killing bacteria and everything.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay and what about our panelists? What have been your experiences with these mistakes? Have you encountered any of them in your cloth diapering world?
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I just wish that I had started sooner. I think that was one of my mistakes. I was nervous about it and afraid to take the plunge. I had them sitting there and I’d say: “Today’s the day. I’m just going to try just one. I’m kicking out.” Then it was like: “Once I finally started using them, I realize how user-friendly they are. There’s no reason to hesitate.” It’s just a very easy process.
KRISTEN STRATTON: How about you Brittany?
BRITTANY CIUFERRI: We actually just started cloth diapering a couple of weeks ago. I agree. I don’t know why I waited to start so long. I think it’s because there is so much information out there. It can be very overwhelming if you’re just getting into it. But I’m pretty sure I have made all of it.
AMY KRESSLER: Well, I think the amount of types that are out there is very overwhelming like she was saying. Really a lot of them could work for your baby. There really isn’t just one type. I think I probably use four or five different types depending on the pattern that I like on their booties sometimes. But some of them are fashion choices more than brand names. But you could really pick from a lot of different ones. They are very cute.
KRISTEN STRATTON: When we come back, we will continue our discussion about mistakes parents make with cloth diapering. We’ll be right back.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Welcome back to the show. We’re talking with Amy Kressler about the top 10 mistakes parents make with cloth diapers. Amy, I’ve heard parents choose the wrong size. I mean how complicated can it be to choose the right size? What about one size fits all?
AMY KRESSLER: Mainly with the one size, we’ll start with the one size fits all. One size never fits all. Just like before when we’re talking about choosing the right diaper for your baby, a one size diaper isn’t going to really necessary fit six pound new born or in my own case, I had a three pound new born. Nothing was going to fit her. So you have to figure out what works best.
The one size fit all, I always recommend to my customers that you always buy new born size diapers or preemie size diapers at least a few to get you through the first few weeks because those diapers that are designed for six and up aren’t really going to fit until the baby’s about nine pounds. So you really have to make sure that you have something that’s going to fit your brand new baby. So that it’s not overwhelming.
If you’re getting a lot of leaks or blowouts then you’re probably using a diaper that’s too small. So you’ll want to move up to the next size. A lot of times, you’ll have to use both for a while. Sometimes you might need a larger diaper at night, smaller diapers during the day to fit under their clothes and stuff like that. So you just have to kind of gauge. But a leak is a good way to tell. If you’re getting leaks, you’re probably using the wrong size.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Could they ever be too big?
AMY KRESSLER: They could look too big. They can definitely be too bulky. But you’ll probably still work.
KRISTEN STRATTON: What about using the wrong diaper creams on their baby? What creams or balms should parents use?
AMY KRESSLER: As with the fibers, you should try to stick with everything natural. You don’t although I guess zinc oxide as technically natural. You don’t want to use zinc oxide so much or the diaper creams that contains zinc oxide. A lot of times they have a lot of other stuff added to them. They’ll build up on your diapers. They cake on the diapers and they don’t wash off very well.
So you want to try to be as natural as possible. Something with coconut oil or lanolin even petroleum is okay as long as you use just a little bit. That goes the same way as zinc oxide. If you use it sparingly, you can almost use anything. A lot of times with Desitin and stuff like that, people really like just put gobs and gobs of it on their baby. You really just need a very thin layer and then it shouldn’t cause a problem for your diapers.
You can always put like a liner in between if you have to. They sell really thin liners for your diapers that you could use. That would protect your diapers if you’re having any issues.
KRISTEN STRATTON: What about our panelists? What have you used successfully with your cloth diapers for those diaper rashes?
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I’ve used those liners that Amy was just talking about. They’re flushable. They’re awesome. I’ve also in a pinch caught up receiving blankets and just stuck that over the cream so it wasn’t touching the diapers.
BRITTANY CIUFERRI: I have used the receiving blankets caught up as liners. Other than that, I just use coconut oil on her all the time.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: The other thing is that a lot of times with diaper rash, the best thing is air for their bottom. So not using anything and just maybe not using a diaper when you’re at home, just putting the diaper under them or something like that, that’s always like the best thing to clear up their diaper rash.
Although that was dangerous I did that with my sons and anyone who has a newborn boy knows you’ve got pee everywhere. That’s right.
AMY KRESSLER: Well truthfully, using cloth diapers I’m thinking about it now and I really cannot think of a time my kids have had diaper rash wearing the cloth diapers. The only time they’ve gotten the rash is if I’ve put them in a disposable. It’s been hot out. It’s come back to bite me.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: Yes, you’re right.
BRITTANY CIUFERRI: That’s what really pushed us into the switch. I could not find a brand of disposables that she could wear. Everything would irritate her skin. So let’s give it a shot. Almost as soon as we started, her rashes started clearing up. She hasn’t had much of a problem at all.
KRISTEN STRATTON: They’re you go everyone’s success story. Okay so what about not dumping poop out of the diaper soon enough?
AMY KRESSLER: Well, I get this a lot especially dads when the dads are hesitant to want to use cloth; I don’t want to have to deal with the poop. I always say: “If you have a new born, you’re going to have to deal with the poop regardless of what kind of diaper you are using.” You are always going to have to deal with the poop when you have a baby. That’s just the way your life goes. When it’s your own baby’s poop, it really doesn’t matter.
So flushing the poop, you don’t want to leave the poop sitting there. For example, if you leave a poopy diaper sitting disposable or cloth – if you leave a poopy diaper sitting out most likely flies are going to find it and then they’re going to lay eggs and that’s going to turn into a big mess. You don’t want that in your diaper pail or anywhere else in your house. So flushing the poop is the best way to go.
If you’re washing your diapers at home, you could use a diaper sprayer. You could hook it up to your toilet and you could spray the diapers off. If you’re using a service like ours, we don’t recommend that only because water promotes the growth of mold. So we’re not picking up for a week. We don’t want diaper sitting there wet. Pee and poop is going to but we do ask our customers to flush the poop.
I think you just have to bite the bullet and shake it into the toilet; it’s not that big of a deal.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: It’s really so much easier than people make it to be.
KRISTEN STRATTON: I’ve seen the diaper sprayers on Pinterest. So apparently, you can go to home depot and make your own. I know they are a little bit pricey. But I have seen them on Pinterest.
AMY KRESSLER: I honestly never rinse my diapers ever. When I wash every two to three days and I never ever had a problem with mold or flies or anything. I just kept them in a close pail and I wash them every few days. Really hot water, I flushed the solid poop. There is that time where it’s like not quite solid, not quite liquid. That’s when those
SUNNY GAULT: We did a whole episode on Baby Poop.
KRISTEN STRATTON: That’s from our Baby Poop Show. Go to www.NewMommyMedia.com.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I do have that experience at home quite often. I can tell you, it’s never been a problem coming out of my diapers. There have been some scary ones and it’s always been fine.
AMY KRESSLER: Again, the sun is great. The sun will get almost any stain out.
BRITTANY CIUFERRI: Yes even that brand new breast milk poop that stains everything.
AMY KRESSLER: Yes it looks like paint when it’s on there. But the sun gets rid of it. In fact it’s easier to get those out than it is to get the blueberries when your kids starting to eat blueberries.
KRISTEN STRATTON: You know what? I had a visual because I totally recall blueberry poop.
AMY KRESSLER: Yes that’s the hardest when to get out.
KRISTEN STRATTON: It’s very fresh in my memory.
AMY KRESSLER: It is. It’s hard.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay so what about not being prepared for cloth diapering on the go?
AMY KRESSLER: I think that’s probably a pretty common mistake. People just you get IN a rush or when you’re a new parent, there’s so much to think about. So I always recommend if you are using pre-folds, you’re going to need a few extra covers. I think online if you read the stuff, they’ll say like four to five or something.
I would say more like six to eight covers. Maybe in the newborn phase, you have a few small newborn ones and then you can get the one size ones that will fit from six or 10 pounds up to like 20 pounds. Have the diapers all ready to put on the baby’s bottom. So if you use pre-folds, don’t use a bunch of pre-folds and a bunch of covers in your bag. But put the pre-folds into the cover, roll it up like you were going to put it on the baby and then put it in your bag. Have it already to go.
Definitely invest in some wet bags more than one. So that when you get home from a day out and you have a wet bag full of dirty diapers, you can put it in the wash and you have another wet bag for tomorrow. So you’re ready to go for the next day if you’re going out.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay and our last one. It’s all or nothing, choosing to exclusively cloth diaper or exclusively use disposables.
AMY KRESSLER: Well, going back to the reasons people choose cloth in the first place – any diapers that you keep out of the way in full is going to make a huge impact. The number of diapers that a baby goes through and the two to three years that they’re in diapers is astronomical. The fact that they all sit there for so long is crazy.
So any amount that you keep out of the landfill is great. Any exposure that you avoid to the chemicals is great. So if you fill like you just can’t handle taking cloth with you when you go out then you only use them at home.
If you feel like you can’t get through a night without your baby waking up then you think it’s because they’re wet then use a disposable at night and use the cloth during the day. I have so many people that do that. You shouldn’t feel guilty or overwhelmed or just do what works for you and do what makes you comfortable.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: I can say when I go on vacation; I do not want to wash diapers.
AMY KRESSLER: Right.
WENDY WHEATCRAFT: So we’d pick an eco-friendly brand and bring that along with us.
KRISTEN STRATTON: Okay well thank you so much Amy and our lovely panelists for chatting with us today about cloth diaper mistakes made by new parents. For our Newbies Club Members, our conversation will continue after the end of the show as Amy will share about how to simplify your cloth diapering routine. For more information about the Newbies Club, please visit our website at www.NewMommyMedia.com.
SUNNY GAULT: We have a question from one of our listeners and this comes from Adrian in New Mexico.
“I’m having a hard time with my son’s cradle cap. I can’t get rid of it and it just keeps coming back. What suggestions do you have? I’ve been using gentle baby products on it because he also has eczema. Help!”
FREDERICK JOHNSON: Hi. It’s Doctor Frederick Johnson calling in Adrian. I guess my first question would be how old is your son? Usually for younger kids or infants, we suggest using either Head and Shoulders and self and once or twice a week to get you the scale and then using a gentle brush. Perhaps baby oil in between.
If it’s not dealing any better with that after I would say: “A couple of weeks.” You should probably have him seen by a doctor just to make sure that it’s only cradle cap and not something else. So I hope that answers all of your question. I’ll talk to you everyone later. Bye.
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